Friday, September 10, 2010

Kevin Randle - The Abduction Enigma and the Will to Believe


On September 8, 2010, I recorded an interview with veteran UFO researcher Kevin D. Randle, most famous for his work on the Roswell case, wherein we discussed two particular topics that he has conducted extensive research in, but has rarely been interviewed about - animal mutilations, and the “alien abduction” phenomenon.

In this segment, Kevin and I discuss “alien abductions” - how it’s not caused by aliens from Zeta Reticuli (or anywhere else), what some of the non-paranormal explanations are, and why the truth has been overlooked by the vast majority of the UFO research community for the past 25 years, to the benefit of “researchers” like David Jacobs and Budd Hopkins, and to the detriment of the people they claim they have been trying to help.

For more information about Kevin’s research into the “alien abduction” phenomenon, you should get a copy of his excellent book The Abduction Enigma, co-authored by Dr. William Cone and Russ Estes.

Paul Kimball

12 comments:

Tyler Kokjohn said...

Abduction researchers have relied on case studies for decades. Is there hope to advance beyond interviews and hypnotic trances to reveal more of the truth? Perhaps there is.

If Dr. Jacobs and Mr. Hopkins are correct, a large number of transgenic, hybrid or otherwise modified individuals are among us now. The genetic tools exist - DNA profiling and genomic sequencing - to reveal them. The costs of genetic analyses are dropping daily and the race is on make the methods so economical that they can be used to warn individuals of known risk factors or help design therapies for active diseases that are custom tailored to their unique genetic backgrounds.

Soon someone will go to a company like 23andMe and discover they aren't like the prototypical human standard. As the new technology permeates routine medical practice, if the hypotheses published in The Threat are correct, a veritable deluge of inexplicable genotypes will begin emerging. Perhaps Dr. Jacobs and Mr. Hopkins will now write a landmark scientific paper predicting this upcoming event and calling for gene analysis companies and gene data banks to be alert? If they can't get the paper through a hostile peer review process, at least they can post it to their websites and thereby claim scientific priority.

If it is the limelight that abduction researchers love, if their ideas are correct they are in an excellent position to bask in it forever. If they now issue a prediction that comes true and their other allegations are vindicated, it will mean a Nobel prize, fame, fortune and adulation. If they are cheated out of the Nobel, they can at least increase their speaking fees since the crowds should be bigger.

Biotechnology-augmented medicine is coming swiftly on the heels of genetic analysis advances, there is no doubt about it. In light of that fact I suggest Dr. Jacobs and Mr. Hopkins publish as many books as fast as they possibly can. My prediction is that their window of opportunity is just about to slam shut.

purrlgurrl said...

Finally, some rational discussion about alien abductions.

I have long-shared Randle's view of John Mack, especially after seeing a film of Mack interviewing children who alledgedly witnessed a UFO landing complete with aliens. He asked them some very leading questions. Being on camera and eager to please, the children basically parroted back the information given them in his questions.

I've suffered from periodic bouts of sleep paralysis. Yeah, it's scary (especially the feelings of helplessness and vulnerability), but I've never had a paranormal or alien experience when it's happened. Maybe I'm too dumb to remember, eh?

BTW, is there more to Randle's interview that you'll be airing soon here or somewhere else?

Lance said...

Am looking forward to the second part of this excellent interview, Paul.

Lance

Paul Kimball said...

Lance, PG -

Thanks!

Part 2, which deals primarily with animal mutilations, will be out by the end of the month. Alas, I've been swamped with prep for the Atlantic Film Festival, which starts tomorrow (and in which my feature film, Eternal Kiss, is premiering), and development on a couple of new films. I'll get to it as soon as the real world (and the reel world!) allows!! :-)

Paul

Paul Kimball said...

Tyler,

Biotechnology-augmented medicine is coming swiftly on the heels of genetic analysis advances, there is no doubt about it. In light of that fact I suggest Dr. Jacobs and Mr. Hopkins publish as many books as fast as they possibly can. My prediction is that their window of opportunity is just about to slam shut.

I suspect your prediction is right on the money - indeed, I think their window has already closed, to all but the most closed-minded.

Paul

Emma said...

I think that Kevin Randle is absolutely right about how some “abduction” researchers use hypnosis to impose their own belief structures on “abdudctees”, and about how damaging it can be to those concerned.

In my opinion, Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs have engaged in highly unethical and abusive practices with their subjects, and each man completely supports what the other does. I believe that it is possible that Mr. Hopkins truly believes that aliens and hybrids are out to get all of us, using sex, violence and intimidation, although I am of the opinion that Dr. Jacobs is more cynical in promoting this story for personal gain while not believing a word of it. However, these two men are shaping the exact story that they both want the rest of the world to hear about -- based on their own so-called “expertise” in a subject they have mainly crafted themselves.

I was Dr. Jacobs’ research subject for two years, and he conducted 91 hypnotic regressions with me. He engaged in extensive leading and suggestion, and there is no way that he can have been unaware of what he was doing. This included him aggressively planting in my memory under hypnosis the suggestion that hybrids were going to contact me, have sex with me and dominate me, and that I had Multiple Personality Disorder, not experiences with aliens, ostensibly so that “aliens” would not know that he was researching my case. To try recovering from this has taken several years out of my life, and it has been very painful to go through. I was not aware of what he was doing to me while I was hypnotized, and I only realized that he had done this much later, when I listened to all the recordings of the hypnotic regressions.

In the following audio clip from my eighth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized to expect to be dominated by a “hybrid”, saying that that if I were to remember the "hybrid" having a conversation with me, that he would be the one who was in control and that I would be in a "second class situation".

http://www.ufoalienabductee.com/hypnosis-session-8-hybrid-control.mp3

In the following audio clip from my eleventh hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized that "hybrids" had assaulted another research subject of his and had threatened to kill him:

http://www.ufoalienabductee.com/hypnosis-session-11-elizabeth-assault-death-threats.mp3

In addition to leading me while under hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs also talked to me in the discussions just before he put me in the hypnotic state about what to expect to remember. For example, in the following audio clip from the discussion at the beginning of my fourteenth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me that “hybrids” often sexually assaulted “abductees” and were in a “total power situation” over them:

http://www.ufoalienabductee.com/hypnosis-session-14-hybrids-sexually-assult-abductees.mp3

I have had to spend several years unraveling the effects of the intensive hypnosis that Dr. Jacobs conducted with me in such an abusive and incompetent manner. I have had to cope with bullying and threats from him to try to prevent me from speaking out, including a threat to reveal my identity in public. In addition, I have been subjected to wholesale defamation by him as he has tried to cover up what he did to me. He has used his influence and connections in the field to try to suppress my voice, and I have been treated as a pariah by some people in the UFO field because I have dared to question his conduct in public. Budd Hopkins has assisted Dr. Jacobs in this.

In my opinion, neither David Jacobs nor Budd Hopkins has any real concern for the welfare of “abductees”, despite their public statements to the contrary. I believe that anyone who thoroughly investigates both of their work will find that the reality behind the facade is disturbing, and that it goes back a long way.

Emma said...

Paul, I know that you have previously recommended that people listen to the Paratopia interview with Emory University psychologist, Dr. Scott Lilienfeld, on hypnosis, so I will provide the link if anyone is interested. I think that it is a very interesting and sobering assessment of the use of hypnosis in this research.

http://www.cyberears.com/index.php/Browse/playaudio/8658

Emma said...

I think that Kevin Randle is absolutely right about how some “abduction” researchers use hypnosis to impose their own belief structures on “abdudctees”, and about how damaging it can be to those concerned.

In my opinion, Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs have engaged in highly unethical and abusive practices with their subjects, and each man completely supports what the other does. These two men are shaping the exact story that they both want the rest of the world to hear about -- based on their own so-called “expertise” in a subject they have mainly crafted themselves.

I was Dr. Jacobs’ research subject for two years, and he conducted 91 hypnotic regressions with me. He engaged in extensive leading and suggestion, and there is no way that he can have been unaware of what he was doing. This included him aggressively planting in my memory under hypnosis the suggestion that hybrids were going to contact me, have sex with me and dominate me, and that I had Multiple Personality Disorder, not experiences with aliens, ostensibly so that “aliens” would not know that he was researching my case. To try recovering from this has taken several years out of my life, and it has been very painful to go through. I was not aware of what he was doing to me while I was hypnotized, and I only realized that he had done this much later, when I listened to all the recordings of the hypnotic regressions.

In the following audio clip from my eighth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized to expect to be dominated by a “hybrid”, saying that that if I were to remember the "hybrid" having a conversation with me, that he would be the one who was in control and that I would be in a "second class situation".

http://tinyurl.com/2v92tae

In the following audio clip from my eleventh hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized that "hybrids" had assaulted another research subject of his and had threatened to kill him:

http://tinyurl.com/387b9de

In addition to leading me while under hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs also talked to me in the discussions just before he put me in the hypnotic state about what to expect to remember. For example, in the following audio clip from the discussion at the beginning of my fourteenth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me that “hybrids” often sexually assaulted “abductees” and were in a “total power situation” over them:

http://tinyurl.com/33askgh

I have had to spend several years unraveling the effects of the intensive hypnosis that Dr. Jacobs conducted with me in such an abusive and incompetent manner. I have had to cope with bullying and threats from him to try to prevent me from speaking out, including a threat to reveal my identity in public. In addition, I have been subjected to wholesale defamation by him as he has tried to cover up what he did to me. He has used his influence and connections in the field to try to suppress my voice, and I have been treated as a pariah by some people in the UFO field because I have dared to question his conduct in public. Budd Hopkins has assisted Dr. Jacobs in this.

In my opinion, neither David Jacobs nor Budd Hopkins has any real concern for the welfare of “abductees”, despite their public statements to the contrary. I believe that anyone who thoroughly investigates both of their work will find that the reality behind the facade is disturbing, and that it goes back a long way.

Emma@ufoalienabductee.com said...

I think that Kevin Randle is absolutely right about how some “abduction” researchers use hypnosis to impose their own belief structures on “abdudctees”, and about how damaging it can be to those concerned.

I was Dr. Jacobs’ research subject for two years, and he conducted 91 hypnotic regressions with me. He engaged in extensive leading and suggestion, and there is no way that he can have been unaware of what he was doing. This included him aggressively planting in my memory under hypnosis the suggestion that hybrids were going to contact me, have sex with me and dominate me, and that I had Multiple Personality Disorder, not experiences with aliens, ostensibly so that “aliens” would not know that he was researching my case. To try recovering from this has taken several years out of my life, and it has been very painful to go through. I was not aware of what he was doing to me while I was hypnotized, and I only realized that he had done this much later, when I listened to all the recordings of the hypnotic regressions.

In the following audio clip from my eighth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized to expect to be dominated by a “hybrid”, saying that that if I were to remember the "hybrid" having a conversation with me, that he would be the one who was in control and that I would be in a "second class situation".

http://tinyurl.com/2v92tae

In the following audio clip from my eleventh hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized that "hybrids" had assaulted another research subject of his and had threatened to kill him:

http://tinyurl.com/387b9de

In addition to leading me while under hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs also talked to me in the discussions just before he put me in the hypnotic state about what to expect to remember. For example, in the following audio clip from the discussion at the beginning of my fourteenth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me that “hybrids” often sexually assaulted “abductees” and were in a “total power situation” over them:

http://tinyurl.com/33askgh

I have had to spend several years unraveling the effects of the intensive hypnosis that Dr. Jacobs conducted with me in such an abusive and incompetent manner. I have had to cope with bullying and threats from him to try to prevent me from speaking out, including a threat to reveal my identity in public. In addition, I have been subjected to wholesale defamation by him as he has tried to cover up what he did to me. He has used his influence and connections in the field to try to suppress my voice, and I have been treated as a pariah by some people in the UFO field because I have dared to question his conduct in public. Budd Hopkins has assisted Dr. Jacobs in this.

I believe that anyone who thoroughly investigates both of their work will find that the reality behind the facade is disturbing, and that it goes back a long way.

Emma said...

I think that Kevin Randle is absolutely right about how some “abduction” researchers use hypnosis to impose their own belief structures on “abdudctees”, and about how damaging it can be to those concerned.

I was Dr. Jacobs’ research subject for two years, and he conducted 91 hypnotic regressions with me. He engaged in extensive leading and suggestion, and there is no way that he can have been unaware of what he was doing. This included him aggressively planting in my memory under hypnosis the suggestion that hybrids were going to contact me, have sex with me and dominate me, and that I had Multiple Personality Disorder, not experiences with aliens, ostensibly so that “aliens” would not know that he was researching my case. To try recovering from this has taken several years out of my life, and it has been very painful to go through. I was not aware of what he was doing to me while I was hypnotized, and I only realized that he had done this much later, when I listened to all the recordings of the hypnotic regressions.

In the following audio clip from my eighth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized to expect to be dominated by a “hybrid”, saying that that if I were to remember the "hybrid" having a conversation with me, that he would be the one who was in control and that I would be in a "second class situation".

http://tinyurl.com/2v92tae

In the following audio clip from my eleventh hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me directly while I was hypnotized that "hybrids" had assaulted another research subject of his and had threatened to kill him:

http://tinyurl.com/387b9de

In addition to leading me while under hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs also talked to me in the discussions just before he put me in the hypnotic state about what to expect to remember. For example, in the following audio clip from the discussion at the beginning of my fourteenth hypnosis session, Dr. Jacobs told me that “hybrids” often sexually assaulted “abductees” and were in a “total power situation” over them:

http://tinyurl.com/33askgh

I have had to spend several years unraveling the effects of the intensive hypnosis that Dr. Jacobs conducted with me in such an abusive and incompetent manner. I have had to cope with bullying and threats from him to try to prevent me from speaking out, including a threat to reveal my identity in public. In addition, I have been subjected to wholesale defamation by him as he has tried to cover up what he did to me. He has used his influence and connections in the field to try to suppress my voice, and I have been treated as a pariah by some people in the UFO field because I have dared to question his conduct in public. Budd Hopkins has assisted Dr. Jacobs in this.

I believe that anyone who thoroughly investigates both of their work will find that the reality behind the facade is disturbing, and that it goes back a long way.

Emma said...

Gary Haden has published a very interesting post on his 'Speculative Realms' blog in which he analyzes the hypnosis sessions that Dr. David Jacobs conducted with me. It includes transcripts and links to audio from the hypnosis sessions.

http://speculativerealms.blogspot.com/2010/09/multiple-personality-disorder-of-david.html

I think that it is probably the most in-depth public examination of Dr. Jacobs' misuse of hypnosis so far.

Emma said...

Further to my comment above, Jeremy Vaeni has written an extremely interesting and very in-depth article on Dr. Jacobs' work with me as his research subject, which will be the cover story in the forthcoming issue of UFO Magazine.

Jeremy's article includes a detailed examination of the events surrounding Dr. Jacobs implanting hypnotic suggestions in my mind that I had Multiple Personality Disorder, ostensibly so that "hybrids" would not know that he was researching my case, as well as the response of Temple University and the Office for Human Research Protections, and the reaction of the UFO field to these events becoming publicly known about.

UFO Magazine will also be publishing an, in my opinion, hysterical abusive letter that Dr. Jacobs forwarded to me from Budd Hopkins, in which he, in my opinion, tried to stop me from speaking out about Dr. Jacobs' misconduct.