tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post113150774313175295..comments2023-08-15T01:24:39.187-03:00Comments on The Other Side of Truth: Gord Heath & The Other Side of TruthPaul Kimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08804735930733797952noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131663107914806382005-11-10T18:51:00.000-04:002005-11-10T18:51:00.000-04:00Fatrobot:Exactly - some people are obsessed with U...Fatrobot:<BR/><BR/>Exactly - some people are obsessed with UFOs, to the point where they become fanatics (this applies to both believers and debunkers). It starts to colour their thinking about everything. It's sad, frankly. They do indeed need to get out more, and enjoy life - and stop pretending that they're Obi-wan Kenobi fighting the dark forces of injustice and evil. If there really are dark forces of injustice and evil, I suspect they have bigger fish to fry than ufologists.<BR/><BR/>Now, off to the bar for a few pints!<BR/><BR/>PaulPaul Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08804735930733797952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131662924875558162005-11-10T18:48:00.000-04:002005-11-10T18:48:00.000-04:00Stuart:There's no problem with making money. Never...Stuart:<BR/><BR/>There's no problem with making money. Never has been, never will be - unless it can be demonstrated that it has compromised a person's objectivity.<BR/><BR/>And I know how sly smears like Heath's work - they've been using them against Stan for years. I agree that the "financial interest" part is totally irrelevant - so why mention it, other than to imply that "this person is not pure of motive, he's just in it for the money."<BR/><BR/>But that's ufology at the extremes (both pro and anti ET) - play nasty, make it personal, and fight dirty - and then exercise a double standard when it comes to condemning debunkers vs. believers.<BR/><BR/>No wonder most people stay away.<BR/><BR/>PaulPaul Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08804735930733797952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131643485821687712005-11-10T13:24:00.000-04:002005-11-10T13:24:00.000-04:00Amen to that! ; )Amen to that! <BR/><BR/>; )The Odd Emperorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09127387562675002576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131640139131394952005-11-10T12:28:00.000-04:002005-11-10T12:28:00.000-04:00people like this bore me to no endthey do everythi...people like this bore me to no end<BR/>they do everything except real research into what ufo's are <BR/>sling mud and speculate about things that have no answers<BR/><BR/>i like the guys in sumatura that have actually found hair of an unknown ape species, of the guy who photographed the bondo mystery ape, they get their feet muddy by going out and find stuff<BR/><BR/>ufologists need to get out morefatrobothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17752241795398778737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131591124465546312005-11-09T22:52:00.000-04:002005-11-09T22:52:00.000-04:00Kyle:Good to see you back in the blogosphere!Yeah,...Kyle:<BR/><BR/>Good to see you back in the blogosphere!<BR/><BR/>Yeah, I thought about ignoring it, as I do with a lot of stuff, but decided in this particularly egregious (and public) case to correct the record. <BR/><BR/>PaulPaul Kimballhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08804735930733797952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131590339756697532005-11-09T22:38:00.000-04:002005-11-09T22:38:00.000-04:00What seems odd to me is that you would provide so ...What seems odd to me is that you would provide so much space to what amounts to be the ravings of a proponent of a discredited field.<BR/><BR/>Who cares what Gord Heath says? If he buys into Hellyer's bombast, he has already removed any patina of credibility from his arguments. So then, why should it surprise when he misrepresents your commentary for his own end?<BR/><BR/>Let them rant. They will hoist by their own petard ere long.<BR/><BR/>Your protest will likely only feed further debate on this non-subject.<BR/><BR/>Kyle<BR/><A HREF="http://UFOReflections.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow">UFOReflections.blogspot.com</A>Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252536566286869906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10903320.post-1131550438863726182005-11-09T11:33:00.000-04:002005-11-09T11:33:00.000-04:00I guess the short answer to all this could be that...I guess the short answer to all this could be that famous quote attributed to WWII bomber pilots. <I>“you get the most flack when right over target.”</I> <BR/><BR/>I for one would much rather have someone misrepresent me than fairly and accurately reflect a patently incorrect statement. That’s why most of my critics are the extreme--shrill type because I try to stay within the confines of verifiable material (and I’m just speaking an opinion for the most part.) <BR/><BR/>When I get critics they have a tendency to become “hypercritical” for lack of a better term. Since many don’t seem to have a real complaint they manufacture one out of half-truths or from of context material. Every time I see someone do this I know that I’ve made my point. <BR/><BR/>Having just briefly skimmed the material you’re citing, I’m pretty sure something similar is happening here. <BR/><BR/>Of course this does not address my overall amusement of the so-called exopolitical movement. In my (I suppose) oddball way of looking at things, it helps to have alien entities or societies first before one should think about communication methods. Saying reductio ad absurdum that the absent evidence can somehow prove the existence of extra terrestrials and that we need to spend an enormous amount of time trying to negotiate a position with them seems utterly loony to my way of thinking. absence of evidence is not the evidence of absents, simply evident of a lack of proof. <BR/><BR/>But, as a cautionary note, (for what it’s worth.) Hamlet Act III, Scene II comes to mind.<BR/><BR/>The Odd Emperor<BR/>http://www.oddempire.orgThe Odd Emperorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09127387562675002576noreply@blogger.com